Talk:HMS E41

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Sinking - contradiction tag

The article first states that fifteen crewmembers escaped from E41 following the collision on 15 August 1916, including seven from the bottom, but then states that Chief Petty Officer William Brown escaped from the submarine 90 minutes after the submarine sank, the first person to escape from a submerged submarine. The two stories are inconsistant - if Brown was the only person to escape from a submerged submarine then what about the other six? If seven escaped and Brown was one of them, why is his tale notable? The whole section is completely unsourced.Nigel Ish (talk) 13:58, 10 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This post, though not a reliable source, would seem to clear up the discrepancy. Seven men were trapped as she sank, but six were able to get out soon afterwards. Brown was alone in a separate part of the submarine and spent an hour and half in a fairly epic struggle, before he too made it to the surface. How this squares with the 'first person to escape from a submerged submarine' claim is unclear, but since the strong implication is that the submarine was submerged when the first six escaped, and the claim is unsourced, I have removed it, along with most of the detail on Brown's escape and his subsequent life. Benea (talk) 14:48, 10 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for that - its now a lot clearer.Nigel Ish (talk) 15:26, 10 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]